Buy Glucophage Without Prescription http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/ An online art magazine ~ Established 2008 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:32:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= Buy Glucophage Without Prescription http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/comment-page-1/#comment-2927 Response to 40 Years Old and Still Waiting - Rounder Studio Sat, 26 Nov 2011 14:36:58 +0000 http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/#comment-2927 [...] Marszalek, a wonderful artist, and a thoughtful blogger with strong opinions, has a post “40 Years Old and Still Waiting to Emerge” in which he questions the definition of what is an emerging artist. I’m 60 years old [...] [...] Marszalek, a wonderful artist, and a thoughtful blogger with strong opinions, has a post “40 Years Old and Still Waiting to Emerge” in which he questions the definition of what is an emerging artist. I’m 60 years old [...]

]]> Buy Glucophage Without Prescription http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/comment-page-1/#comment-2859 dan Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:51:27 +0000 http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/#comment-2859 "emerging", its just a term, at times I have been emerging at other times I have been mid-career. Art dealers use this term like all other terms , when they talk to collectors, would be collectors - their clients. heck- I emerge from my bed every morning, I emerge from the dinner table every evening and so on - get the point? the point is, like anything else in life, do what we love because we will have to keep doing it, and that no matter what we choose to do, we have to learn how to make money with it. I knew lawyers who were less successful monetarily because they did not know how to make money with their trade and skills! “emerging”, its just a term, at times I have been emerging at other times I have been mid-career. Art dealers use this term like all other terms , when they talk to collectors, would be collectors – their clients.
heck- I emerge from my bed every morning, I emerge from the dinner table every evening and so on – get the point?
the point is, like anything else in life, do what we love because we will have to keep doing it, and that no matter what we choose to do, we have to learn how to make money with it. I knew lawyers who were less successful monetarily because they did not know how to make money with their trade and skills!

]]> Buy Glucophage Without Prescription http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/comment-page-1/#comment-2471 Norbert Marszalek Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:54:13 +0000 http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/#comment-2471 I agree with you Dan. An artist recently told me that the most important thing we artists can do is to share time with other artists. I'm starting to understand how vital that is. I agree with you Dan. An artist recently told me that the most important thing we artists can do is to share time with other artists. I’m starting to understand how vital that is.

]]> Buy Glucophage Without Prescription http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/comment-page-1/#comment-2470 Dan Boos Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:31:57 +0000 http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/#comment-2470 In my humble opinion, an MFA is irrelevant unless your intention is to teach in a traditional setting. Though I have a degree and I have numerous additional credits in art, design and art history, the most valuable lessons that I have learned has come from sharing time with other artists in their creative element and through personal experimentation. I've been emerging or maturing now for more than thirty years. I would think that the most important credentials that I have is my body of work. I will admit, that it can be very challenging for a forty or fifty-year old artist to acquire the same prolification of opportunity that artists experience when they are in their twenties. Whether you're speaking of grants, awards, shows, collectors or galleries, it would seem that artists of age are mostly destined to submerge than emerge. Maybe the internet's democratization of art is the saving grace for those of us whose brushes have become worn, but not tired. In my humble opinion, an MFA is irrelevant unless your intention is to teach in a traditional setting. Though I have a degree and I have numerous additional credits in art, design and art history, the most valuable lessons that I have learned has come from sharing time with other artists in their creative element and through personal experimentation. I’ve been emerging or maturing now for more than thirty years. I would think that the most important credentials that I have is my body of work. I will admit, that it can be very challenging for a forty or fifty-year old artist to acquire the same prolification of opportunity that artists experience when they are in their twenties. Whether you’re speaking of grants, awards, shows, collectors or galleries, it would seem that artists of age are mostly destined to submerge than emerge. Maybe the internet’s democratization of art is the saving grace for those of us whose brushes have become worn, but not tired.

]]> Buy Glucophage Without Prescription http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/comment-page-1/#comment-2083 Norbert Marszalek Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:49:41 +0000 http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/#comment-2083 "As for the MFA, it will soon be replaced by a studio PhD in America (as is already happening elsewhere). That will complete the total absorption of art into the empire of academia and the apotheosis of theory before practice, or word before act." Frighteningly true. “As for the MFA, it will soon be replaced by a studio PhD in America (as is already happening elsewhere). That will complete the total absorption of art into the empire of academia and the apotheosis of theory before practice, or word before act.”

Frighteningly true.

]]> Buy Glucophage Without Prescription http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/comment-page-1/#comment-2082 William Conger Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:27:35 +0000 http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/#comment-2082 I like Norbert's article and all the response comments offer good points. Almost anything that can be said on the topic has value because terms like "emerging" and "success" are so open-ended. As for the MFA, it will soon be replaced by a studio PhD in America (as is already happening elsewhere). That will complete the total absorption of art into the empire of academia and the apotheosis of theory before practice, or word before act. In fact even now we can say that art is only what's said about it and the MFA program is simply the process of learning artspeak. Yet Chicago has always been a center for antagonistic art, not against society so much as against the dominance of artworld artspeak and for the primary role of "unexplained" creative action. Noticed or ignored, Chicago's best art bubbles up like a spring; it's not piped in from artspeak headquarters. I like Norbert’s article and all the response comments offer good points. Almost anything that can be said on the topic has value because terms like “emerging” and “success” are so open-ended. As for the MFA, it will soon be replaced by a studio PhD in America (as is already happening elsewhere). That will complete the total absorption of art into the empire of academia and the apotheosis of theory before practice, or word before act. In fact even now we can say that art is only what’s said about it and the MFA program is simply the process of learning artspeak. Yet Chicago has always been a center for antagonistic art, not against society so much as against the dominance of artworld artspeak and for the primary role of “unexplained” creative action. Noticed or ignored, Chicago’s best art bubbles up like a spring; it’s not piped in from artspeak headquarters.

]]> Buy Glucophage Without Prescription http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/comment-page-1/#comment-1288 Doug Sun, 10 Jan 2010 07:01:24 +0000 http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/#comment-1288 My initial thought here is: "ask Van Gogh" and I'd reconsider what we mean "emerging". Is it being with a certain gallery, being featured in a museum show, hitting a sales record? I get the impulse and desire but it's difficult to distinguish this from the same old status-race that so to plagues our depraved culture. Does that shape the kind of work that achieves this lofty status? And in some cases, the work that gets put on this pedestal seems to me enormously vapid, mechanical and cold-hearted. That being said, what still counts is the originality of one's ideas and expression, the intensity of one's energies to realize them and a little luck in connecting with people on the business side of the art world who can get excited about the work. My initial thought here is: “ask Van Gogh” and I’d reconsider what we mean “emerging”. Is it being with a certain gallery, being featured in a museum show, hitting a sales record? I get the impulse and desire but it’s difficult to distinguish this from the same old status-race that so to plagues our depraved culture. Does that shape the kind of work that achieves this lofty status? And in some cases, the work that gets put on this pedestal seems to me enormously vapid, mechanical and cold-hearted.

That being said, what still counts is the originality of one’s ideas and expression, the intensity of one’s energies to realize them and a little luck in connecting with people on the business side of the art world who can get excited about the work.

]]> Buy Glucophage Without Prescription http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/comment-page-1/#comment-1275 Kevin Swallow Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:57:44 +0000 http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/#comment-1275 I'm just under 40 and still consider myself emerging. That will still be the case 2 years from now. I think takes time; you have to pay your dues and put the time in. Working consistently and developing your art is what's important. Stay in it for the long haul and recognition will come. The instant art superstars are also a reflection on our culture. It's not just visual art where this happens. Take music as an example...Bands are not discovered by some record company A&R guy anymore. A kid posts a few songs to a MySpace page, builds a following in a matter of months, and becomes a music blog sensation before his first album comes out. It used to be that bands built up a following over many years of hard work, touring, and promoting themselves to college radio stations. But with the internet, it's easier to get your work out there - fast. The music industry doesn't "develop" bands anymore and grow their following over time. Except for the select few, this instant success isn't sustainable, creativity fades, and they fizzle out. Same with the art stars. I've been practicing art regularly for about 13 years. I didn't go to traditional art school but have taken classes to build up my skills and learned by working, going shows, museums, and constantly reading about art and artists. I know some people who did go to art school, got their BFA or MFA but haven't picked up a brush since. But whether you went to art school or not, I think you have to keep educating yourself - taking a class, workshop, reading, experimenting with your work. It helps you continue to grow as an artist. This, along with dedication and experience counts as much as an MFA. I’m just under 40 and still consider myself emerging. That will still be the case 2 years from now. I think takes time; you have to pay your dues and put the time in. Working consistently and developing your art is what’s important. Stay in it for the long haul and recognition will come.

The instant art superstars are also a reflection on our culture. It’s not just visual art where this happens. Take music as an example…Bands are not discovered by some record company A&R guy anymore. A kid posts a few songs to a MySpace page, builds a following in a matter of months, and becomes a music blog sensation before his first album comes out. It used to be that bands built up a following over many years of hard work, touring, and promoting themselves to college radio stations. But with the internet, it’s easier to get your work out there – fast. The music industry doesn’t “develop” bands anymore and grow their following over time. Except for the select few, this instant success isn’t sustainable, creativity fades, and they fizzle out. Same with the art stars.

I’ve been practicing art regularly for about 13 years. I didn’t go to traditional art school but have taken classes to build up my skills and learned by working, going shows, museums, and constantly reading about art and artists. I know some people who did go to art school, got their BFA or MFA but haven’t picked up a brush since. But whether you went to art school or not, I think you have to keep educating yourself – taking a class, workshop, reading, experimenting with your work. It helps you continue to grow as an artist. This, along with dedication and experience counts as much as an MFA.

]]> Buy Glucophage Without Prescription http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/comment-page-1/#comment-1274 Adela Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:48:51 +0000 http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/#comment-1274 There was an article in the New York Times about a 94 year old woman who is just becoming the "Hot New Thing in Painting". She has been painting according to the article for six decades. She thought "fame was a vulgar thing. So I just worked and waited". She made her first sale in 2004 and is now being pursued by collectors. Her name is Carmen Herrera. You have to ask yourself why you are doing it. What's worse, not having the courage to express yourself creatively or not being recognized for what you create. Is it not enough that you are doing it? In my 50s, I'm finally expressing myself creatively and am starting to feel satisfaction in that expression. Whether I get recognized for it is not an expectation. If it happens, great but I do not pine for it. All you can do is create and share your inspiration with others. Reactions good or bad, should not determine your creative direction. Just enjoy the flow as it comes, in whatever shape or form. There was an article in the New York Times about a 94 year old woman who is just becoming the “Hot New Thing in Painting”. She has been painting according to the article for six decades. She thought “fame was a vulgar thing. So I just worked and waited”. She made her first sale in 2004 and is now being pursued by collectors. Her name is Carmen Herrera.

You have to ask yourself why you are doing it. What’s worse, not having the courage to express yourself creatively or not being recognized for what you create. Is it not enough that you are doing it? In my 50s, I’m finally expressing myself creatively and am starting to feel satisfaction in that expression. Whether I get recognized for it is not an expectation. If it happens, great but I do not pine for it. All you can do is create and share your inspiration with others. Reactions good or bad, should not determine your creative direction. Just enjoy the flow as it comes, in whatever shape or form.

]]> Buy Glucophage Without Prescription http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/comment-page-1/#comment-1273 ted stanuga Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:35:13 +0000 http://neotericart.com/2008/11/10/40-years-old-and-still-waiting-to-emerge/#comment-1273 Very true and thanks for this great article. Having hit 60 and still painting without much recognition, I am thinking that maturation is that point where we understand that the art world including MFA programs are as the judge in the Rothko case indicates, "by far the most corrupt business he saw in his lifetime on the bench". (this in The Rothko Legacy)....and do our work anyway. Very true and thanks for this great article. Having hit 60 and still painting without much recognition, I am thinking that maturation is that point where we understand that the art world including MFA programs are as the judge in the Rothko case indicates, “by far the most corrupt business he saw in his lifetime on the bench”. (this in The Rothko Legacy)….and do our work anyway.

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